Posted Feb 28, 2007 at 10:10PM by Jex H.
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by hai (Unregistered) - 2007-02-28 |
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» no
They both suck, who needs them. I = not rich. I dont even own a HD ready TV.
They both suck, who needs them. I = not rich. I dont even own a HD ready TV.
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Re: PS3Rider (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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There not going to be released to public, due to high production cost. There was a triple layer DVD that was introduced but was never released to the public. Even if this is true Blu-Ray can just introduce their 100gb triple layer BR-Disk
There not going to be released to public, due to high production cost. There was a triple layer DVD that was introduced but was never released to the public. Even if this is true Blu-Ray can just introduce their 100gb triple layer BR-Disk
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Re: Xbox is the best (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» did you read
ps3rider did you read the article it says that toshiba is going to launch it by the end of the year when sony is going to lose the console wars anyway. you really be riding ps3 that you don't even see the reality in front of you, wake up man.
ps3rider did you read the article it says that toshiba is going to launch it by the end of the year when sony is going to lose the console wars anyway. you really be riding ps3 that you don't even see the reality in front of you, wake up man.
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Re: qw (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» PS3RIDER knows 0
Correct xbox is the best and it just goes to show that the PS3 fanboys just read the first line and then type any old rubbish in response
Correct xbox is the best and it just goes to show that the PS3 fanboys just read the first line and then type any old rubbish in response
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Re: PS3Rider (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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you idiots it says 'Media reports say that Toshiba is introduce this new format to the market before the year ends' Toshiba have had this in devlopment for ages now, sure they can show it off just as triple layer DVD was shown off but it doesn't mean it is going public.
you idiots it says 'Media reports say that Toshiba is introduce this new format to the market before the year ends' Toshiba have had this in devlopment for ages now, sure they can show it off just as triple layer DVD was shown off but it doesn't mean it is going public.
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Re: Xbox is the best (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» ps3 rider
ps3 rider you must be a kid or something - introduce to the market - means there are going to launch it in stores so people can buy it.
ps3 rider you must be a kid or something - introduce to the market - means there are going to launch it in stores so people can buy it.
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Re: PS3Rider (Unregistered) - 2007-03-02 |
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Yeh and with your creative and orignial name ''xbox is the best' you must sure knwo a lot
Yeh and with your creative and orignial name ''xbox is the best' you must sure knwo a lot
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by nightshade15 - 2007-03-01 |
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» Good stuff
I = not rich but with careful planning was able to buy 37'' LCD Sharp Aquas.
This is great news. 51gb disc on a preferable format.
You don't need a HDTV to appreciate a storage format.
I = not rich but with careful planning was able to buy 37'' LCD Sharp Aquas.
This is great news. 51gb disc on a preferable format.
You don't need a HDTV to appreciate a storage format.
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Re: das (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» Blu Ray is looking to be dated already
Great news especially if it comes to the Xbox to, looks like MS knew all along it would be just a short time before HD-DVD would better Sonys now lower spec old 50gb Blu Ray.
Great news especially if it comes to the Xbox to, looks like MS knew all along it would be just a short time before HD-DVD would better Sonys now lower spec old 50gb Blu Ray.
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Re: yea (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» ho
all that money saved up from working at Safeway paid off, mommy is proud.
all that money saved up from working at Safeway paid off, mommy is proud.
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Re: korin (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» ha
now he can save up for a $1000 blu-ray to take advantage of his new tv.
now he can save up for a $1000 blu-ray to take advantage of his new tv.
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by crikey (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» uh...
WOW! HOW AMAZING!
...no not really, HD-DVD cant hold as much because the type of protection it uses on the disc. the HD-DVD is more similar to a DVD because both use the same type of protection layer on the bottom side of the disc. It is not that great when it comes to avoiding scratches but its thick enough to keep the disc running.
blu-ray however has a much thinner layer of protection but is much much stronger. (made by panasonic, and also none of my blu ray discs have been scratched yet. yay!)
so basically, the thicker the protection (i think HD-DVD is two to three more times as thick compared to blu ray), the less info the disc hold. you should know this already if you have glasses too. and the laser gets a bit more distorted when reading. so...
even though both blu ray and hd-dvd use the same diode, they extract info differently, and the way the disc is made is also different.
WOW! HOW AMAZING!
...no not really, HD-DVD cant hold as much because the type of protection it uses on the disc. the HD-DVD is more similar to a DVD because both use the same type of protection layer on the bottom side of the disc. It is not that great when it comes to avoiding scratches but its thick enough to keep the disc running.
blu-ray however has a much thinner layer of protection but is much much stronger. (made by panasonic, and also none of my blu ray discs have been scratched yet. yay!)
so basically, the thicker the protection (i think HD-DVD is two to three more times as thick compared to blu ray), the less info the disc hold. you should know this already if you have glasses too. and the laser gets a bit more distorted when reading. so...
even though both blu ray and hd-dvd use the same diode, they extract info differently, and the way the disc is made is also different.
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Re: ll (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» ll
and BluRay also loads a lot slower, what else is new?
and BluRay also loads a lot slower, what else is new?
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Re: Xbox is the best (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» capacity
capacity is capacity period
capacity is capacity period
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by Gamertag: GOPAL892005 (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» Q
will the HD-DVD add-on for the X360 be able to read the 3rd layer?
if not - this a bit useless - for current HD-DVD players anyway.
will the HD-DVD add-on for the X360 be able to read the 3rd layer?
if not - this a bit useless - for current HD-DVD players anyway.
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Re: sd (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» Proberly will go to Xbox
I should think it problerly will be coming to Xbox and I bet Microsoft knew all along that it was just around the corner and that is why they went with HD-DVD
I should think it problerly will be coming to Xbox and I bet Microsoft knew all along that it was just around the corner and that is why they went with HD-DVD
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Re: PS3Rider (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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And Blu-Ray just release their 100gb triple layer BR-Disks and HD-DVD is left in the dark again
And Blu-Ray just release their 100gb triple layer BR-Disks and HD-DVD is left in the dark again
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Re: Xbox is the best (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» yes
yes it can
yes it can
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Re: Xbox is the best (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» to be
to be more precise the 360 hddvd drive can read the third layer
to be more precise the 360 hddvd drive can read the third layer
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Re: Gamertag: GOPAL892005 (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» !
so what if Sony release a 100GB Blu-Ray disk - the PS3 wont b able 2 read any layers beyond 1+2 - correct me if i'm wrong.
so what if Sony release a 100GB Blu-Ray disk - the PS3 wont b able 2 read any layers beyond 1+2 - correct me if i'm wrong.
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Re: nightshade15 - 2007-03-01 |
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» For the third layer
HD-DVD players can read the higher capasity discs already, but Blu-Ray players need an upgrade if I remember correctly, just firmware upgrades, I do not think its a hard ware issue.
HD-DVD players can read the higher capasity discs already, but Blu-Ray players need an upgrade if I remember correctly, just firmware upgrades, I do not think its a hard ware issue.
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Re: we (Unregistered) - 2007-03-02 |
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» SP3rider trying to push it to ?
I read up to the point where PS3rider wrote that magic word -statistics- lol that was where I stopped, arnt you also trying to push Blu Ray with that post to?...
And for every site that says One format is winning there is another that says the other is winning is,so lets wait and see.
And f either format gives a FREE film (rember the word FREE)with their console or player they wouldnt add that to their film sales would they?....
I read up to the point where PS3rider wrote that magic word -statistics- lol that was where I stopped, arnt you also trying to push Blu Ray with that post to?...
And for every site that says One format is winning there is another that says the other is winning is,so lets wait and see.
And f either format gives a FREE film (rember the word FREE)with their console or player they wouldnt add that to their film sales would they?....
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Re: PS3Rider (Unregistered) - 2007-03-02 |
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» to we
No they would add it to their film sales, as it has been confimed by sony that the free films that have been given out with the PS3 have not been included in Blu-Ray sales
No they would add it to their film sales, as it has been confimed by sony that the free films that have been given out with the PS3 have not been included in Blu-Ray sales
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by R Kelly (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» Can you see it?
The pain in the eyes of Blu-ray whores. If it werent for Blu-Ray the PS3 would have sold much better. i will not buy one. atleast with the 360 if i dont want to support a format i dont have to. DVD hasnt been the market leader that long and most people dont know what blu-ray or hd-dvd even are. But it seems that sony is advertising the hell out of blu-ray will the hd-dvd side has been relatively quiet on the advertising front.....sony looks kinda desperate to me. Only time will tell.
The pain in the eyes of Blu-ray whores. If it werent for Blu-Ray the PS3 would have sold much better. i will not buy one. atleast with the 360 if i dont want to support a format i dont have to. DVD hasnt been the market leader that long and most people dont know what blu-ray or hd-dvd even are. But it seems that sony is advertising the hell out of blu-ray will the hd-dvd side has been relatively quiet on the advertising front.....sony looks kinda desperate to me. Only time will tell.
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Re: qw (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» Free film doesnt equal film sales
Yup the HD-DVD sells itself the Blu Ray is having to be pushed,
Yup the HD-DVD sells itself the Blu Ray is having to be pushed,
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Re: : ) (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» RE: qw
so true
so true
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Re: PS3Rider (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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HD-DVD has been quiet because it has lost many studios to Blu-Ray. Heres a few statistics for you: Blu-Ray movies are beating HD-DVD movie sales by a ratio of 4:1. Blu-ray players are beating HD-DVD players at a ratio of 3:1. The only good backing studio that HD-DVD has now that isn;t also backing Blu-Ray is Universal, which is ready to start producing their movies on both formats for the time being. Many Studios have gone to Blu-Ray due to its dual AACS security, whereas HD-DVD is much easier to copy due to its single AACS. The production costs of Blu-Ray are expected to plumet by 50% by 2008 due to cheaper manufacturing, whereas if HD-DVD was to compete with Blu-Ray by releasing their triple layer HD-DVD disks, their production costs would be more to produce a 50gb HD-DVD disk than a 50gb Blu-Ray disk.
Just recently from the mouth of Bill Gates, Microsoft believe Flash Nand memory is the future media storage, and that neither Blu-Ray or HD-DVD will win. I see that as a sign that Bill Gates doesn't believe that HD-DVD will beat Blu-Ray.
Some people believe that Sony shouldn't push a new format on to its comsumers, but without doing this, how will the format succeed? Take DVD for instance: DVD has become the most popular media format in the past years, but why? The answer is the PS2, as the PS2 incorparated DVD into it, and because of this sold a lot. At the moment many people don't have HDTV's but once the whole HD broadcasts and switch over happens in the next 2 years, I can see the PS3 selling a lot due to its cheap Blu-Ray cababillities, whereas HD-DVD won't have the backing support it needs, as it is not incorporated into the Xbox 360. A format always needs to be pushed otherwise nobody will buy it, and that is fact.
At the moment all statistics over the internet and in blogs point to one clear winner: Blu-Ray. Sure it may not be an easier format war, but at the moment Blu-Ray has the biggest backing support of many studios.
HD-DVD has been quiet because it has lost many studios to Blu-Ray. Heres a few statistics for you: Blu-Ray movies are beating HD-DVD movie sales by a ratio of 4:1. Blu-ray players are beating HD-DVD players at a ratio of 3:1. The only good backing studio that HD-DVD has now that isn;t also backing Blu-Ray is Universal, which is ready to start producing their movies on both formats for the time being. Many Studios have gone to Blu-Ray due to its dual AACS security, whereas HD-DVD is much easier to copy due to its single AACS. The production costs of Blu-Ray are expected to plumet by 50% by 2008 due to cheaper manufacturing, whereas if HD-DVD was to compete with Blu-Ray by releasing their triple layer HD-DVD disks, their production costs would be more to produce a 50gb HD-DVD disk than a 50gb Blu-Ray disk.
Just recently from the mouth of Bill Gates, Microsoft believe Flash Nand memory is the future media storage, and that neither Blu-Ray or HD-DVD will win. I see that as a sign that Bill Gates doesn't believe that HD-DVD will beat Blu-Ray.
Some people believe that Sony shouldn't push a new format on to its comsumers, but without doing this, how will the format succeed? Take DVD for instance: DVD has become the most popular media format in the past years, but why? The answer is the PS2, as the PS2 incorparated DVD into it, and because of this sold a lot. At the moment many people don't have HDTV's but once the whole HD broadcasts and switch over happens in the next 2 years, I can see the PS3 selling a lot due to its cheap Blu-Ray cababillities, whereas HD-DVD won't have the backing support it needs, as it is not incorporated into the Xbox 360. A format always needs to be pushed otherwise nobody will buy it, and that is fact.
At the moment all statistics over the internet and in blogs point to one clear winner: Blu-Ray. Sure it may not be an easier format war, but at the moment Blu-Ray has the biggest backing support of many studios.
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Re: qwe (Unregistered) - 2007-03-02 |
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» DVD is the winner by around 10,000 to 1
PS3Rider Statistics off the net fzzzzzzz websites in favour of One or the other fzzzzzzz, all rubbish, for every site their will be another with the opposite opinion.
And the winner for YEARS to come is called DVD and that is what is in the 360, Normal householders who are Non gamers or film buffs dont give a crap about Blu Ray or HD-DVD and this wont change untill normal TV get broadcast in HD only, as this is the only reason why householders will ever bother upgrading their Tv as in its present form normal TV looks worse on an HD-TV...
PS3Rider Statistics off the net fzzzzzzz websites in favour of One or the other fzzzzzzz, all rubbish, for every site their will be another with the opposite opinion.
And the winner for YEARS to come is called DVD and that is what is in the 360, Normal householders who are Non gamers or film buffs dont give a crap about Blu Ray or HD-DVD and this wont change untill normal TV get broadcast in HD only, as this is the only reason why householders will ever bother upgrading their Tv as in its present form normal TV looks worse on an HD-TV...
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by hahaha (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» so what
blu ray sucked cuz it costed more to produce and the space wasnt needed.
HD-DVD now owns becuase it now costs more to produce and has more space.
does the extra space matter? on a ps3 forum it doesnt, but in a 360 forum it does. now that HD-DVD has an advantage in capacity.... space is a huge subject now? you guys are gay.
what happens it bluray adds a third layer?
blu ray sucked cuz it costed more to produce and the space wasnt needed.
HD-DVD now owns becuase it now costs more to produce and has more space.
does the extra space matter? on a ps3 forum it doesnt, but in a 360 forum it does. now that HD-DVD has an advantage in capacity.... space is a huge subject now? you guys are gay.
what happens it bluray adds a third layer?
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by Xbox is the best (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» there
there goes the blu-ray advantage.
there goes the blu-ray advantage.
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Re: haha (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» there
and there goes the HD-DVD advantage in cost
HD-DVD now costs more to produce for that extra bragging rights of 1MB. Godd JOB!!
and there goes the HD-DVD advantage in cost
HD-DVD now costs more to produce for that extra bragging rights of 1MB. Godd JOB!!
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Re: haha (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» i mean
1GB...not MB..haha
1GB...not MB..haha
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by ohmygod (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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1 gig. You guys are getting your panties in a buch over 1 gig. Sad, really sad. Blu ray will still win anyway.
1 gig. You guys are getting your panties in a buch over 1 gig. Sad, really sad. Blu ray will still win anyway.
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by Dj Natas (Unregistered) - 2007-03-01 |
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» LOL, what a joke!
Contrary to reports this week that Toshiba had completed work on its 51GB, 7 hour HD DVD disc and submitted it for approval to the DVD Forum, Toshiba says the disc is still in the works, and that it hasn't made any official announcements since early January when it first revealed the disc. "We're puzzled ourself by where these reports came from," said Junko Furuta of Toshiba, who denied such developments. That's all we know for now, no word on when the disc will actually be completed, but according to the original announcement, Toshiba will be looking for approval of such a disc this year.
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/01/toshiba-says-51gb-hd-dvd-still-in-the-oven/
QJ IS NOTHING BUT LAME RUMOR AFTER RUMOR!!!!!
Contrary to reports this week that Toshiba had completed work on its 51GB, 7 hour HD DVD disc and submitted it for approval to the DVD Forum, Toshiba says the disc is still in the works, and that it hasn't made any official announcements since early January when it first revealed the disc. "We're puzzled ourself by where these reports came from," said Junko Furuta of Toshiba, who denied such developments. That's all we know for now, no word on when the disc will actually be completed, but according to the original announcement, Toshiba will be looking for approval of such a disc this year.
http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/03/01/toshiba-says-51gb-hd-dvd-still-in-the-oven/
QJ IS NOTHING BUT LAME RUMOR AFTER RUMOR!!!!!
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by ret (Unregistered) - 2007-03-02 |
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» DVD wins ......
Do any of you really believe that Blu Ray or Hd-Dvd are winning anything ? because I can tell you they are not, they are fighting over a tiny market as the real winner is called DVD it sells a huge amounts of hardware everyday and proberly sells and hires more films in a month than Blu Ray and Hd-Dvd together have done in a year.
Do any of you really believe that Blu Ray or Hd-Dvd are winning anything ? because I can tell you they are not, they are fighting over a tiny market as the real winner is called DVD it sells a huge amounts of hardware everyday and proberly sells and hires more films in a month than Blu Ray and Hd-Dvd together have done in a year.
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by Erick (Unregistered) - 2007-03-02 |
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» CAPACITY
cmon 3 layer 51 GB? Blu-Ray already announced a 200GB disk since august 2006.
http://news.digitaltrends.com/article11210.html
cmon 3 layer 51 GB? Blu-Ray already announced a 200GB disk since august 2006.
http://news.digitaltrends.com/article11210.html
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Re: ew (Unregistered) - 2007-03-02 |
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» 200gb is pointless to normal households
200 gb is pointless who is going to risk storing info of that size on One disc? NO ONE.
The point about the HD-DVD 51gb is it if it comes to 360 it puts it at the same size as Blu Ray which in turn will cut out any bull about games wont fit on 360 on One disc etc..
200 gb is pointless who is going to risk storing info of that size on One disc? NO ONE.
The point about the HD-DVD 51gb is it if it comes to 360 it puts it at the same size as Blu Ray which in turn will cut out any bull about games wont fit on 360 on One disc etc..
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Re: PS3Rider (Unregistered) - 2007-03-02 |
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» to ew
Games arnt made on HD-DVD disk you idiot, there made on normal DVD disks. Also 51gb HD-DVD disk will cost more in production than dual layer 54gb Blu-Ray disks.
Games arnt made on HD-DVD disk you idiot, there made on normal DVD disks. Also 51gb HD-DVD disk will cost more in production than dual layer 54gb Blu-Ray disks.
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